On this bonus episode of Chasing Kangaroos Big T is joined by the greatest Kiwi Fern of all time; Honey Hireme-Smiler. She discusses being a better rugby league player than her brothers as a five year old, winning world cups for New Zealand, the evolution of the women’s game over Honey’s 18 year career, and her ideas for the future of the NRLW.

Chasing Kangaroos is mixed and recorded by Paul Murchison. Enjoy the show.

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